No WMDs in Iraq
Bush lied! There are no WMDs! Bush Lied! Bush is Hitler! Bush lied!
This is the crap that we've been hearing from the left, non-stop, since we toppled Saddam and put an end to his mass graves. (By the way, how many lives have we saved since we took out Saddam, nobody on the left seems to ever want to mention that out.)
How silly was it when the the left started lying to the America public that Bush lied about Saddam's WMDs when we first started looking and didn't find them within 5 seconds. It was funny to a point but then became just utterly depressing when we figured out they were really serious. It was funny to watch them fall all over themselves in haste and try to distance themselves from the Iraq war, a war in which they themselves voted for and even campaigned for in public.
It didn't matter though, their beloved United Nations acknowledged that Saddam was a grave threat to the world and must account for his WMDs, but so what, Bush lied and Bush is Hitler and that's thats. Yes it was laughable but they continued to perpetuate the big lie at a fevered pitch, swaying world opinion, doing their very best to weakening the American people's resolve in a time of war against people who want to cut our throats.
But now that Bush=Liar is common knowledge within the brain-dead leftist community of degenerate scum...
What say you now you lying rats.
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after.
This is the crap that we've been hearing from the left, non-stop, since we toppled Saddam and put an end to his mass graves. (By the way, how many lives have we saved since we took out Saddam, nobody on the left seems to ever want to mention that out.)
How silly was it when the the left started lying to the America public that Bush lied about Saddam's WMDs when we first started looking and didn't find them within 5 seconds. It was funny to a point but then became just utterly depressing when we figured out they were really serious. It was funny to watch them fall all over themselves in haste and try to distance themselves from the Iraq war, a war in which they themselves voted for and even campaigned for in public.
It didn't matter though, their beloved United Nations acknowledged that Saddam was a grave threat to the world and must account for his WMDs, but so what, Bush lied and Bush is Hitler and that's thats. Yes it was laughable but they continued to perpetuate the big lie at a fevered pitch, swaying world opinion, doing their very best to weakening the American people's resolve in a time of war against people who want to cut our throats.
But now that Bush=Liar is common knowledge within the brain-dead leftist community of degenerate scum...
What say you now you lying rats.
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after.
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9 that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal, and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being traded out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters – the latter required for the production of chemical and biological warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman, said. "You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to such countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was discovered in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20 SA-2 engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through these yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess the significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be going on there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam regime. Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of the country.
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All comments here are open and for the most part unmoderated. However, comments that are off topic or offensive will be summarily deleted at my discretion. The ideas and views expressed below do not necessarily express the views hootinan.com| 1 | Jonny Ness | Sat, 06/12/2004 01:37am |
| Bush liiiiiiiiiieeeedd!!! And Kerry, he is more honest than Mother Teresa on sodium amytol. | ||
| 2 | Bill | Sat, 06/12/2004 02:51am |
| I saw the WMD's with my own eyes! buggy | ||
| 3 | cet | Sat, 06/12/2004 09:14am |
| finally something that makes sense, this is why we do not need the media broadcasting that we are going to war six months before we attack. Really was it not obvious this whole time what happened to the "WMD's". It will be interesting to see what they dig up in syria. | ||
| 4 | KC | Sat, 06/12/2004 11:15am |
| I wouldn't be too happy about this. If the WMD were really there in Iraq and smuggled out, then who the hell knows where these things are and what kinds of people have their hands on them? If a war that was designed to prevent WMDs from getting into the hands of terrorists is the direct cause of that very outcome, then we fucked up. | ||
| 5 | tom | Sat, 06/12/2004 04:49pm |
| KC, I am most certainly not happy or excited that Saddam’s WMD arsenal is now popping up all over the world. I’m glad to see yet another reason the President went to war come to fruition. Second point, we had two options, take Saddam down or do nothing and hope that the UN would disarm him. Since the UN proved itself an old toothless hound, we were left with no choice. Would you rather we sat on our hands and did nothing, not knowing what in sam hell Saddam was doing with his arsenal? Yes some of these weapons may now be in the possession of the barbarians, but since we went into Iraq, we now have the opportunity to ask Iraqi scientists and other ex-Baathist thugs where Saddam’s stockpile went and hopefully track them down. Yes some of them will lie but some may also tell us the truth and that’s better than nothing; which is what we would have gotten if Saddam were still in power. | ||
| 6 | KC | Sat, 06/12/2004 05:39pm |
| I'm not saying that the war was a bad idea, just that we should have made sure that the weapons wouldn't be smuggled out en masse. If we had special forces in Baghdad, then surely we could have identified the most likely transit routes for the WMD and had some people there to let us know if anything big was happening. I mean, we had been enforcing the no-fly zone for years, how did they slip this stuff right under our noses? Shouldn't that have been priority #1, secure the WMD? | ||
| 7 | Paolo | Sun, 06/13/2004 03:45am |
| This piece of news underlines another war, a war we are losing. Why I have not found ONE european newspaper talking about this report ? In big international media you find a softening information (missiles parts descovered without underlining their quality or the news about plants susceptible to be used for chemical war) | ||
| 8 | David Mader | Tue, 06/15/2004 11:55am |
| With regard to KC's comments, I wonder how much the months-long 'rush to war' contributed to the apparent wholesale exporting of Iraq's WMD-producing facilities and equipment. I don't know that it could have been done any other way - in a democracy, a snap war just isn't possible; still, it seems we hawks now have a reason to 'deplore the rush to war' as much as our dovish friends have done since last March. | ||
| 9 | Nicole | Tue, 06/15/2004 03:18pm |
| While it's true that we don't know where these WMDs went, it can be somewhat reassuring that they probably went to various different places. These weapons are no longer localized in one area, under the control of only one man. It's a lot more difficult for people all over Europe and the Middle East to coordinate an attack than one, centralized force. Saddam is a very smart man and a strong leader. Without such a leader and with the supplies scattered, it becomes increasingly difficult to use these WMDs in any sort of large-scale way. | ||
| 10 | Danny, resident of nuclear gro | Tue, 06/15/2004 09:19pm |
| The Azzam organization delivered this Fatwa (order) to Muslims through out the world in 1998: "The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies-civilians and military is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it,"... | ||
| 11 | Ericsyko | Thu, 06/17/2004 11:43pm |
| Seal off Iran, invade them, and THEN I bet we'll find those WMDs. To be frank, we should have expected this. And Jonny Ness: Read the story: Bush didn't lie; our intelligence was NOT incorrect: Iraq had WMDs and they've been shipped off, probably across the whole middle east. With that in mind, let's take out Iran and Syria. It'd be about time for us to stand up to those militant muslim psychos. And Kerry's HONEST? Please. As an example: when he began his campaign, he denounced all war by stating that when he was in Vietnam, he machine gunned innocent civilians on orders. But when he realized that such a confession could have him charged with war crimes, he immediately retracted his statements, denying he ever said those remarks, EVEN WHEN CONFRONTED WITH AUDIO AND VIDEO RECORDINGS. | ||
| 12 | KC | Fri, 06/18/2004 03:45am |
| Iran is going to be getting nukes very very soon. Israel? We took out Saddam, your turn to take out a few Iranian reactors. | ||
| 13 | Bikerdad | Sat, 06/19/2004 10:03pm |
| Not at all surprised that this stuff has turned up. I also wouldn't be surprised that more of it is being deliberately left in the "distribution channels" in order to track down those who want it. When attempting to exterminate vermin, bait can be handy. As for Israel taking out the Iranian nuclear program, it ain't gonna happen. From a military/practical perspective, the US absolutely controls the airspace that the Israelis would have to fly through to get there, and that control eliminates any "plausible deniability" on our part, something that was of great value when they took out Saddam's reactor in the 80s. It's also very doubtful that they could do enough damage with SpecOps to derail the program AND still get away. In short, we would either have to help the Israelis take out the Iranian program, or do it ourselves. | ||
| 14 | Matthias | Sat, 06/19/2004 10:21pm |
| Bottom line is: If Bush said - Look WMD are there, mushroom cloud, and Rumsfeld chimes in there are WMDs somerwhere north east west and south of Bagdhad, making sure everybody's ready for war: THEY HAVE TO DELIVER. Now they are backpedaling and looking very sorry - WMDs turn into weapons programs etc. It's a good thing Saddam is gone - if they could only come forth and say: Ok, we fucked up. But it was worth it anyhow. Instead, more lying, more lies!! | ||
| 15 | decepter | Thu, 07/01/2004 12:38am |
| and there was not a bomb exploded on the side of an iraq road with two gases that form syrin gas either ....lol or did that make the news but well i guess syrin gas is not a weapon of mass destruction...wonder what the people in that subway thought when it went off there.o this is jus a bad smell ....people open your eyes there has been weapons of mass destruction used ...o yeah and any missile that travel over 100 mile sis consodered a weapon of mass destruction so what were those missiles at the onset of the war that were sent into neighboring countries several hundred miles away? slingshot apparratus' | ||
| 16 | Jen | Thu, 07/01/2004 12:49am |
"It's a good thing Saddam is gone - if they could only come forth and say: Ok, we fucked up. But it was worth it anyhow. Instead, more lying, more lies!!" You know, in not so many words, I think we ARE hearing some of that from Washington. But neither do I doubt for a minute that a great deal of the suspected WMDs did indeed end up in Syria and other "sympathetic" countries. Also, as a family member of SEVERAL servicemen who have spent time serving in Iraq (and friend of several more), I know that our troops DID in fact find an awful lot of stuff that, while not a finished product WMD, was almost certainly incidental in researching and producing them. Trouble is, of course, that in a more industrialized country, those chemicals and machinery also have legitimate corporate and agricultural uses. And unless they're caught in the act, it's mighty hard to prove either way. | ||
| 17 | NINJA | Sat, 07/10/2004 02:50am |
| I admire your opinions but you don't have the intel. You don't know exactly what's running through Bush's mind at that time or any other official in the white house and neither do i. I do know that at least most of today's free world is to some degree relieved of that anxiety. Sure, there are many who put all the blame on Bush and Americans but what do they know? Only what they have heard. Do you think that the 6 o'clock news tells you the entire truth? Hell no. And then there are reasons the intel agencies don't give their secrets. There is a lot they are not telling us and for what reason we can only trust to be good judgement. If you don't want to just speculate as any boring civilian does, why don't you try to find out yourself? Have you heard of people called cyber spies? You won't be able to know everything, just a lot more than you do now. There are many extremist that would gladly die for their stupid cause. The only way to fight and idea is another idea. If they can come together to die. We can come together to both live and ensure the lives of our children free from fear. | ||
| 18 | Dirk L. Hudson | Tue, 08/03/2004 09:10pm |
| WMD Findings Reported To Date From Dec., 2002 through June, 2004 Part One | ||